tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530972841308721533.post968561674868112366..comments2023-09-01T11:29:18.150+01:00Comments on BeerViking: Around Bamberg #9: Bierkellers and beer terroirBryanBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03550482701819539081noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530972841308721533.post-80086772476955847142013-09-04T11:02:17.773+01:002013-09-04T11:02:17.773+01:00Very true. Very true. BryanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03550482701819539081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530972841308721533.post-5637411699389171302013-09-04T11:01:42.999+01:002013-09-04T11:01:42.999+01:00I think I see what you mean - that you prioritise ...I think I see what you mean - that you prioritise the closeness of production over the localness of the ingredients. <br /><br />But terroir is more than just the ingredients - and indeed the hops and barley probably weren't grown around the corner anyway. It's also the climate and the local environment, and if we're talking about brewing then it is probably also the brewhouse - at least, I'd argue so anyhow. (-:<br /><br />And its influence here is that it fits - there's something about the local beer style or production that matches the locality. It could be purely psychological though...BryanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03550482701819539081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530972841308721533.post-29674101657097735302013-09-03T22:12:15.868+01:002013-09-03T22:12:15.868+01:00The combination of setting, occasion and company c...The combination of setting, occasion and company can all have a powerful effect on ones appreciation (or otherwise) of the beer. I've experienced this many times myself, in many different settings, and I think this is something beer lovers often overlook.<br /><br />A classic English bitter, enjoyed in an unspoilt traditional pub, in the company of friends; a glass of warming strong ale, enjoyed in front of a roaring log fire, after a hike across the moors, in winter, to a country pub or, as both you and I have both experienced recently, a cool, stoneware Krug of Franconian Kellerbier, enjoyed under the shady trees in a rural Keller, all take some beating. Drink any of these beers in a different context, and you can almost guarantee they will not be as good!Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530972841308721533.post-91296845721034288242013-09-03T13:07:15.649+01:002013-09-03T13:07:15.649+01:00I've experienced this effect that you describe...I've experienced this effect that you describe many times, and there's no doubt that the reason people say "beer doesn't travel" is a combination of enjoying the place where you have the beer, and deterioration of the beer during transport away from the source. Disentangling those two can be very difficult, exactly as you say.<br /><br />But I don't think <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" rel="nofollow">terroir</a> has anything to do with it. Terroir is basically the way the place of origin flavours the product, so that German beer winds up tasting different from Belgian beers. This has nothing to do with where you drink them. Belgian beer has terroir, ie it tastes like only beer from Belgium can, whether you drink it in Tokyo or Seattle.Lars Marius Garsholhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15442220825022305581noreply@blogger.com